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Cellulite [Visitor] in response to: Holylands Hell

Cellulite [Visitor] — Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:14:00 +0000

All the points you have mentioned here are really necessary for a new student in the university. After reading your blog, I am now missing my college life.

Over the hill [Visitor] in response to: Holylands Hell

Over the hill [Visitor] — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 20:21:27 +0000

My student Years were the best days of my life, aw how i miss them!

beano [Member] in response to: Holylands Hell

beano [Member] — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:16:27 +0000

"I spent another year living on Lisburn Rd where i never encountered midnight IFA, IRFU or ...emm.... cricket! "

It may not be in the same league, but I'll admit I did bounce a basketball a handful of times on the Lisburn Road rather late one night (without damaging anyone or anything though).

Ignited [Visitor] in response to: Holylands Hell

Ignited [Visitor] — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:11:05 +0000

Seamus,

I was talking about my own experience of living in the holylands, not other areas. In the holylands it was hurling and Gaelic Football (what I would sum up as GAA) played at all hours with damage to other peoples property. If that is my bigotry then so be it. I spent another year living on Lisburn Rd where i never encountered midnight IFA, IRFU or ...emm.... cricket!

beano [Member] in response to: Holylands Hell

beano [Member] — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:12:12 +0000

"In fairness, from what I hear, most of them are from Tyrone"

There's something very fishy here - sure we all know Tyrone people are too thick to go to university!

Reg [Visitor] in response to: Holylands Hell

Reg [Visitor] — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 20:32:15 +0000

From what I've heard, most of the troublemakers are culchies from Catholic backgrounds and I have heard stories of lads playing hurling (pissed) in the wee hours in the street.

In fairness, from what I hear, most of them are from Tyrone so such behaviour is not surprising (other than that they know how to play hurling at all).

The police seem extraordinarily lax. You get the odd bit of drunken student behaviour in the student areas of Dublin but it seems to be out of control in Belfast

beano [Member] in response to: Holylands Hell

beano [Member] — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 17:21:37 +0000

Seamus, like I said, if the students are bringing the universities into disrepute they'd be foolish not to do something about it.

And if you read some of the comments on Slugger and the articles linked to in the Holylands Warzone blog, it's quite clear that it's mostly culchies we're dealing with - one Slugger commenter specifically mentions being able to identify that a large number of offenders were from UUJ by their GAA tops. There's no need to get so defensive, nobody's blaming the GAA for this. And, while this is veering wildly off-topic, if a writer wishes to make a general statement about Gaelic games without seeing a need to specify gaelic football or hurling, GAA would seem an appropriate description. Not only are they in the unique situation of ruling the entire game, not just administering it locally, you also (unless I'm mistaken) have generic "GAA tops" and "GAA clubs" which (or substitute GAA for gaelic if you like, but that has its own problems). I'm all for pedantry but there's a time and a place.

Seamus [Member] in response to: Holylands Hell

Seamus [Member] — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:32:36 +0000

Now Junkmale, there is nothing wrong with partaking in the Devil's Buttermilk in moderation, and getting blitzed is actually an enjoyable experience [and I'm still at an age where Hangovers pretty much don't exist ].

Beano, it is not the Universities job to wonder what their students do in their free time. They are Lecturers, not Babysitters. Compare University to employment, as long as it doesn't affect my work, should my employer get involved if I get plastered in the Holylands.

Ignited, there are many different sports played at night in certain areas, and your singling out of Gaelic and Hurling maybe just shows your own bigotry.

[By the way, when talking about Gaelic and Hurling, don't call the sport GAA. It would be like saying, "I'm going out to play some IFA[Football]" or "I'm going to watch a game of IRFU[Rugby]". Just call it Gaelic or Hurling.

beano [Member] in response to: Holylands Hell

beano [Member] — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 02:29:08 +0000

Mike that's a fair point actually, but in the name of encouraging students to, you know, study, I think the universities should take on board some of these things anyway.

Besides the students are bringing the universities into disrepute and its in the universities' interests to act, even if it's not an obligation on them. When we were at school we were continually having it rammed home that even if we were outside the school but wearing the uniform we should be mindful that we're "representing the school" and, for example, smoking in school uniform was not the sort of thing that was looked kindly upon. Not many of us took it that seriously but it was something some of us remained conscious of and was, in an objective view, reasonable grounds for discipline - moreso at university.

Mike [Visitor] in response to: Holylands Hell

Mike [Visitor] — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 18:36:30 +0000

Since when has the maintenance of law and order in certain districts of Belfast been a matter for the University of Ulster/Queens University (or landlords for that matter) ?

If You or I were to upset our neighbours by engaging in anti-social or downright criminal behaviour in and around our homes is it the responsibility of whoever our employers happen to be (assuming we have one) ?

Upholding the law and dealing with anti-social behaviour is a matter for the Police and courts. If the some or all of the Police in a particular area happen to be lazy, incompetent or powerless that is a seperate (albeit extremely serious) issue which needs to be addressed but not by Education or Housing providers stepping in to provide some kind of auxillary policing.