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8th May 2005

German Neo-Nazis: The New MOPEs

Permalink 01:27:09 pm, Categories: News, World, Europe, 521 words  

I just caught a discussion this morning on BBC Radio 5 about a rally being held today in Berlin by neo-Nazi/neo-fascist groups. It's a bit sickening really but one thing that stuck in my mind was a comment from a German citizen there who was disgusted that some people in Germany were trying to portray the Nazis as victims! That's right, the Nazis are the new MOPEs. It seems that it doesn't matter whether you're in Northern Ireland or Germany, victimhood is central to nationalist socialist mentality.

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Up until the mid-1980s Germans tended to view VE Day as a day of surrender, but a recent poll found that 80% of Germans see the day as one of liberation. Most Germans now remember VE day not as a day of defeat, but that 8th May 1945 was a turning point for Germany representing the rebirth of freedom, democracy and human rights.

But this doesn't sit comforably with some of the lunatic fringe in Germany. You see, according to these right-wing nutcases, Germany wasn't liberated by the Allies and they want to "put an end to Germany's guilt culture." Neo-Nazis intend to remember 8th May as a day of defeat for Germany. Let's face it they wouldn't be the only group in the world that remembers wars and battles where they were beaten, would they?

Hearing the above I began to wonder if the rise of Sinn Fein is a way for republicans in Northern Ireland to comfortably sweep any guilt they might have under the rug. Is this victim mentality a way to justify every bomb, every murder and every act of wanton destruction of Northern Ireland by amplifying their own MOPEry?

Tens of thousands of people are said to have taken part in a candle-lit protest against the rally last night, also held in Berlin, so thankfully there is just as strong feeling against the facsits as there is within their ranks. The Germans seem to have overcome the challenge of recognising that Hitler was a monster without continually blaming themselves or letting it tarnish their identity as Germans. Perhaps there's a lesson here.

Tomorrow more than 50 world leaders will arrive in Moscow for further commemorations, in an event designed to pay tribute to the enormous human sacrifice paid by the Soviet Union. Almost 27 million Soviet citizens, soldiers and civilians, died in the war.

At the same time, in Prague, a re-enactment will today be held of the battle for Czech radio, which happened near the end of the war. However, the Czechs would have to undergo another 40 years of their history being misrepresented by Soviet occupying forces until the truth could be told openly about this event. The Soviets tended to overstate the Red Army's involvement and play down that of the USA and Czech resistance forces.

Finally, I want to say thank you to all Britain's servicemen and women who fought in the World War's to give us the freedom we have today. There's still time to pledge a donation to the British Legion to help ensure these ex-soldiers can live out their lives in dignity.

Comments:

Comment from: provo [Visitor] · http://www.rsf.ie
british pigs out of ireland
up the ra!


Please stay on topic or at the very least say something constructive and/or original, beano
Permalink 11th May 2005 @ 10:46
Comment from: beano [Member] · http://www.everythingulster.com
Aside from the idiocy of calling yourself "provo" and then linking to Republican Sinn Fein (who don't like the provisionals very much) you haven't actually addressed any of the issues in my post.

I would have expected you to at least defend yourself against the allegations I make that you and your ilk justify your crimes against the United Kingdom by over-exaggerating some sort of victimhood mentality, or better yet actually comment on the problem of neo-fascism in the modern world.

But I guess that's expecting too much from someone who can't tell the difference between provos and dissidents.
Permalink 11th May 2005 @ 11:32
Comment from: Concerned Loyalist [Visitor]
I decided to check out your site Beano, and I have to say it looks well. I've already had my first laugh from this Continuity IRA/Republican Sinn Fein supporter calling himself a Provo! lol. What next, an LVF supporter calling himself a Uvfer or blackneck?
Permalink 13th May 2005 @ 13:19
Comment from: el chupanaebare [Visitor]
in writing this article you fail to realise that most people in germany alive at the time of the nazis are actually dead, germany is now a new generation, its not the same misguided folk going astray once more. and when you consider this then take into account that since they weren't responsible for the nazi atrocities it is a form of victimisation. how long do we drag out the war guilt over the germans? majority of whom are not responsible at all for any of their nations past actions. so for the neo-nazis who are recruiting in germany massively in the young germans it is a form of victimisation and you can understand why they feel this way.

also, if youre really trying to write a serious article why refer to them as "right wing nutcases", this shows that you clearly are afraid of them since you cant name them civily whithout using names, your berating of them shows your fear of them. and remember that in Germany there are far more left wing 'nutcases' than neo-nazi 'nutcases', see all newsreports to see that it is always the left wingers who start throwing stonea and bricks at both the german police forces and the neo-nazis. so dont be so politically blind.
Permalink 29th August 2005 @ 13:09
Comment from: beano [Member] · http://www.everythingulster.com
What on Earth are you talking about? Victimisation? What's victimisation? Saying that most people in Germany realise that World War 2 was not a defeat of Germany but a defeat of Naziism?

You say the young people in Germany are being "victimised" - how are they being victimised?

"when you consider this then take into account that since they weren't responsible for the nazi atrocities it is a form of victimisation"

What's a form of victimisation? You ramble on about the new generation not being responsible for Germany's past but I've never once said they are!!

The people I'm writing about are trying to portray Nazis as victims!

Believe me I lie right of centre myself and am perfectly happy deriding left wing nutcases as well - anyone who blindly follows any ideology unquestioningly deserves derision.

If you want to criticise my post, please at least read it first!!

if youre really trying to write a serious article why refer to them as "right wing nutcases"

Because they are right wing nutcases if they think anyone's going to have sympathy for Nazis and fascists. You're damn right I'm afraid of them - or more precisely, their ideas. We've seen what happens when a right-wing nutcase gets into power and I don't want to live through a repeat of World War 2!
Permalink 29th August 2005 @ 13:49

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