the uvf in east belfast has turned from the peoples of ulsters army into the peoples of ulsters enemy. Why cant they be loyalists, they should be called the ulster intimidation force instead!. They dont know what loyalism is. When was the last time the uvf really did somthing to actually help the protestant community. Plus the fact that they have killed more protestants than catholics in the last 10 years. Who needs the uvf around? the protestants dont anyway. not when they have the UFF! fuckin cunts hope they all rot in hell.

You know you were going ok until you mentioned the UFF. They're just as much a bunch of thugs as the UVF, they just have different flags. Wake up and smell the coffee. Paramilitaries are paracites and we're all better off without them.

well u obviously dont know what the uda are trying to do at the minute, they are getting rid of every bully and drug dealer in the organisation slowly but surely, this time next year you will see what im talking about.

well frank i'll give u it, ur a funny guy lol. and i do agree with you saying that about the ulster volunteer force, nobody needs them. but i also didnt like the uff part!!! but if what u say about them is true then that is a very good thing. that woman did not deserve to go through what she did, neither did her children. i dont think its rite at all.

well alan at least some1 sort of agrees with me lol. and yea it is true about what i said about the uda. in time u will see, 1st of all it was c company who was forced to end what they were doing, then it was the leadership in east belfast, now its the leadership in north belfast in south east antrim. i think after that it will be very close to sorted out. if anyone reads this could they reply and let me know how i become a member of this web sight? i like it!

its ok i found out how to register!

Frank, you have indeed found out how to register. The main benefit of membership (at the moment anyway) is simply that when you post you are shown as a member - and thus people cannot impersonate you.

Back to the matter at hand. Once you get rid of the bully-boys and thugs from the UDA (or any other paramilitary group) they've lost their raison d'etre, so what role do you think the UDA should be playing exactly?

beano, that is one thing that hasnt been decided or fully thought about yet, at the minute they are more concerned about getting out the bullys,thugs etc, they want to fully back the peace process. that was a good question and at the minute i cannot give a totally accurate answer. but they are also remembering about the ira, they are still active, they may have made a so called weapons decommisioning but i would say over 50% of the uda still believes the ira has many weapons left. the uda doesnt want to risk anything untill the ira has completly disband and become inactive. after that has happened and the bullys, drug dealers and thugs are removed then they will decide about there future and then i can answer your question more accuratly. one thing i do know is that the mainstream of the uda are trying their hardest to make things peaceful at the minute.

well anyway it doesnt really matter about the future of the uda, i got carried away a bit! this is about the woman and her children who were almost killed from a petrol bomb attack by the UVF on her house. does anyone have any comments on that?

I don't think I've anything to add to my closing paragraph in the original post. On the topic of the UDA you may be interested in this post: Loyalists Lose PR Battle - Again.

i already gave my comment on the woman and her children, im more interested in what your saying about the uda now. if its true how long do you think it will be before the real bad boys will all be out of the uda frank?

like i said mate, this time next year ul see a big difference. obviously i cant give an exact date but i think in a years time everything will be cleaned up.

well frank u seemed like u knew what u were talking about but i seen the news and the thugs and drug dealers didnt get stood down mate.

your right mate, they never . but the good ones done what they could do, they tried. all they wanted was for them to stand down and stop there dealing and stop ruining the uda. but the bad ones got backed up by other ones who obviously want to deal still, they also got backed up by community workers because they knew people would have died over it so unfortunatly there still there. the way i look at it is that im from east belfast and our brigade is as good as its ever been after jim gray got stood down and a few other people got through out, im happy about that, fuk the rest of them! it just means now south and east belfast are the good brigades of the uda now, well there all good apart from n.belfast and south east antrim, im sure they will not like each other from now on but arnt going to turn to violence....for the mean time anyway.

o your from east belfast. i used to live there. thanks for the information you dont leave much things out!!!!!! u really love the uda and care about the peace process dont you. i am the same. (dont love the uda but care about the peace process) . well maybe you never got what u wanted but u made a good point, at least your brigade is sorted out. thanks for the comments and if i want to know anything else i will ask.

how did you reply so quickly lol. yes im from the east, what part did u live at? and yea i really love the uda (but only the good ones) and yep im totally into the peace process. i dont want to uda to disband or anything but i want them to be a peaceful and good organisation but theres parts that arnt going to be like that, there not uda to me anymore lol. and no problem if uv anything more to ask i will answer it.

meant to say i dont want the uda to disband not to want to uda to disband, i hate them typing mistakes lol

i can type fast! i lived on the woodstock road in east belfast. do you know it?

yes i do know were that is, i live just over 2 miles from there.

i agree with u the uvf r nothon but scum.and that poor girl was made 2 flee her home with her kids and as i hear it they r still homeless.so unreal no woman or kids deserve any of that it shud all b stoped

none better than the uda.they would never have put a young family out of their home.a family who lived there all their lives.no time 4 the lvf but certainly none 4 the so called uvf

Catch yourself on, the UDA/UVF/LVF they're all just the same thugs with different flags.

yes your rite mickey the uda is the only paramilitary thats progressing well in the peace process. the lvf is drug dealing the uvf is beating kids while the uda is planning its future, and beano, u know nothing by the sound of it

You're right, I know very little from first hand experience (certainly in the last 2-3 years). However I'd trust the judgement of the IMC over a pseudo-anonymous internet user (and one who seems to have trouble with basic English at that).

UDA men are still involved in racist and sectarian attacks, drug dealing, punishment beatings and shootings, the report published on Tuesday said.