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Official: EU Makes It to the Big Time
You know your successful when you start getting hate mail.
It's a shame it's so piss-poor, but baby steps and all that.
While I've had messages sent from this site before, this is the first one filled with quite such obvious (and entertaining) rage.
Hello Beano...I have to admit that you sound claver enough but your an asshole! Northern Ireland is not britain or the united kingdom or great britain or wathever other little silly names you people use, its NORTHERN IRELAND emphasis on IRELAND because it is Irish soil after all. If u dont like how OUR country is run then leave simple as....You and your cronnies need to start waking up to the fact that you live in Ireland or as i like to call it Eire and if you want to be British then do us a favour and go to Britain!!!
nikki****@yahoo.co.uk
"Go to Britain!!!" Why didn't I think of that before!?
Where do you start?
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Follow up:
1. YOU'RE an asshole, though I'm sure YOUR asshole is just lovely as well.
2. I may be an asshole but you're an idiot. I never claimed Northern Ireland was the United Kingdom. However only a moron would dispute that it's in it.
3. Unfortunately, I haven't even acquired any cronies yet, but when I do I'll set them to work investigating what exactly cronnies are.
4. Like the UK yahoo address ![]()
5. Britain is not the same as Great Britain, but when you can't even understand the difference between the Republic of Ireland and the island of Ireland then I suppose it's a little much to hope you'll get the difference between Great Britain and Britain.
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Congratulations Beano.
Do Unionists like some people here view yourself as British First, then N.Irish.
Would you be happy if you where on holiday and were called Irish? Do you consider yourself to be Irish or British or can the both ok together? I have travelled through most of Europe and a lot of people think of N.Ireland and Ireland as the one, as it is advertised on an all island basis. They see more similarities with the south than the North. Would unionists or protestant people from N.Ireland be insulted if they were called Irish or would they prefer to be called N.Irish to be exact or just plain British.
Also a lot of people from Europe and the world do not actually know that in the UK, it is made up of different people from different areas. they think that in Scotland England and Wales everybody is the same and are shocked when they go to Scotland and see the people talk about England as the auld enemy.
This is just from my own personal experiences. How do unionists see the future of Unionism going and would some of them accept N.Ireland to be its own independent country. As a moderate Nationalist I think it is safe to say that Nationalism have got a strategy for the future. how would Unionists accommodate Nationalist and Republican Voters in A United Kingdom government. how do you see N.Ireland future panning out?
Belfastman,
"Do Unionists like some people here view yourself as British First, then N.Irish. "
For me personally, it's hard to say. I think Northern Irish noses it.
"Would you be happy if you where on holiday and were called Irish?"
It used to piss me off a lot, (especially when it was my own family members whose parents had emigrated - they should know better). If someone directly asks "Are you Irish?" I'd usually reply something along the lines of "Northern Irish, yeah." If they ask where we're from I'd say Northern Ireland (or Belfast if I think there's a decent chance they'll know of it).
"would some of them accept N.Ireland to be its own independent country. "
Some would, yes.
"how would Unionists accommodate Nationalist and Republican Voters in A United Kingdom government. "
Not sure what you mean by that. Safeguards against discrimination is a given. Beyond that I don't think they need that much accommodating. They're just people like everyone else.
"Would a unionist be proud to be Irish or proud to be British
Could be both. I've learned to accept the Irish thing. My own perceptions growing up were the same as most of the foreigners you talk about. Ireland/Irish = tricolour = republican and/or not British (or often hate-the-Brits). I've just decided since then that it was their definition or understanding of Irish that was wrong (although understandable), not their placing me in that group. I'm not at the stage where I really take pride in being Irish though - the waters are too muddied.
Oh Stevie! How about independence for Rathlin?
So why do chucks support Independence for Scotland and Wales ?
And does Hispaniola belong to the Dominican Republic or Republic of Hati ?
Never heard of that expression before?
The West Belfast varient are also known as MOPE's (Most Opressed People on Earth)
Sure you don't mean Tiochfaidh Ar La?
I know loads of people who say "Chucks" most of my Irish speaking mates refer to their language as "Chuck".
Ireland (and Northern Ireland) have never been part of Great Britain.
Having said this, the e-mail was pretty comical anyway.
Paddy, see point 5. And also my response to Brian Feeney's Fundamental Failure to Understand Unionists.
I never said Ireland (or any part thereof) was part of Great Britain.
It was called Great Britain before Ireland came into the equation, and that is due to the fact that the parliament of Great Britain, replaced the parliament of England and the parliament of Scotland.
Nice of you to allow me to use wikipedia as a source, don’t usually do as wikipedia is updated by punters like you and me, even wikipedia themselves say that they are the door to more investigation and should not be used as sources.
But even though them seem to agree with me, search for Britain and no page is found, it just displays a list of possible articles with a message "Britain may refer to:" first of the list? Yes you guessed it.
Ok, I give it to you that they might not the same in historical terms, today referring to ‘Britain’ or ‘Great Britain’ in a modern political sense, is just simply the same
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[1]
Great Britain
–noun
an island of NW Europe, separated from the mainland by the English Channel and the North Sea: since 1707 the name has applied politically to England, Scotland, and Wales. 46,417,600; 88,139 sq. mi. (228,280 sq. km).
[2]Britain
–noun
1. Great Britain
2. Britannia
Brit•ain
The island of Great Britain during pre-Roman, Roman, and early Anglo-Saxon times before the reign of Alfred the Great (871-899). The name is derived from Brittania, which the Romans used for the portion of the island that they occupied.
Of all the sources Wordnet (Princeton) is actually the one I would have trusted most, though maybe that's just because it agrees with me
. It's on the google link and also a few entries down on the page you link to.
My point was simply that correcting someone over something that is clearly not universally accepted seems pointless at best. Even Wikipedia wouldn't allow a fact to be included just "because I said so" (and I completely agree with you about it's lack of authority on all but the most uncontentious issues). Plenty of people use Britain and UK and how can you correct them without some recourse to a higher authority?
