There is nothing desperate about it. We simply want to widen the net. The media - especially the BBC - refuses to cover us so many people will not be aware that the Party is even organised here, never mind contesting elections. We want good people to approach us - people who are sick of what passes for politics here. Here's their chance to get involved in the only main Party to organise ivery part of the United Kingdom.

Bit of a type...last sentence should read "in every part of the United Kingdom."

The major problems the Conservatives have is that, despite what ever way they want to spin it, a Unionist Party. That at a start completely alienates almost half the population of the North. Mr Peel above, says that people who should vote for the Conservative and Unionist Party are people who are sick of the politics of Northern Ireland. The Conservatives are another example of the politics of Northern Ireland, and through Maggie Thatcher, a major cause of the politics in Northern Ireland.

I'd say the Tories are more pro-Union than "Unionist" in the traditional understanding.

And to be fair, whoever we vote into Westminster won't change the fact that only the people of Northern Ireland can decide on our constitutional arrangement (unless the Republic decide they don't want us of course). This means that it doesn't matter per se whether the person/party you vote for is pro-Union or pro-Unification; more important is how good they are at delivering for Northern Ireland.

I just think that as a party the Conservatives would be more likely to support policies that would be more Unionist in mind, like support for the Orange Order, a more pro Monarchy image, a Union Jack only approach on Government buildings etc. And when it comes down to it, with devolution, Westminster elections are becoming more and more irrelevant, with no big decisions being taken at Westminster. All Westminster does for Northern Ireland is that it gives Ian Paisley Jr a third salary provided by the tax payer.

I'm curious what you base the "support for the Orange Order" claim on...

A number of different things. Many of the main heavy hitting Tories in Northern Ireland, David Trimble, James Leslie, etc. etc. are not only former members of the UUP but also Orangemen. The most high profile Conservative in Northern Ireland skipped merrily down the Garvaghy Road. Also the Tories showed in the mid 90s that they would do anything to get power. They begged the Unionist MPs for their support when John Major had trouble in the mid 90s and I would imagine that they would do the same to woo the Unionist electorate.

Maybe if we stopped this ridiculous "are you an orange or a green conservative?" approach we could actually look at policies and get into real politics instead of the sectarian freakshow that passes for politics here.
Maybe the Conservatives would alienate even more than half of the population by their attitude to the Health Service but at least we would be talking about something that really matters to people.
Unlike the orange /green debate you might even find some people being convinced enough to change their mind by a well thought out set of policies.

Well, either way, I still wouldn't vote for the Tories. Constitutionally, I don't agree with them. On economic issues, I am a socialist, so I despise the Tories. On social issues like abortion and gay marriage, I am actual quite conservative [note the small c]. The Tories aren't. They are actual quite liberal, so I despise the Tories. On Foreign Policy, the Tories are gung-ho Militarists and imperialists, while I hate empires and war, so I despise the Tories. On enviornmental issues, David Cameron has made the Tories real green freaks and I don't believe in Global Warming.

Plus, I hate Maggie Thatcher and will be very happy the day the aul bitch dies. So there aren't many issues that I agree with the Tory party on, other than the fact that I hate the Labour Party. We agree on that.

maggie thatcher, [censored: play the ball] She kept the troubles going for longer than it should with her policies.

David Cameron is totally fake an just looks like an idiot, and also if you think that conservative party is real politics in action then you are stupid. We all have our own parties here and dont need an english man to tell us how to run our own affairs., be it DUP, UUP, SDLP, Sinn Fein.

OUr Politics are more real than the crap that your party comes out with. The Labour party and yourselves are just the same, I have watched Westminster debates and it is a joke. We argue about matters that are important to us, we have now got our own government and are now debating that matters such as water charge, so dont tell me we need yuor pathetic party to run our state, country.

Also the Conservatives are unionist, or pro union whatever you want to call it, This would further split the union vote, would an pro union person vote for UUP, DUP or the Conservative. If I was a Unionist I would vote for the DUP, or the UUP as they know what really matter for their voters, they are a Northern Irish Party and local and have been there for a long time, the Conservatives on the other hand want to come here, tell us that our politics is a joke, our MLA and MPs are a joke and that we dont know what we are doing. I would say that unionists dont need conservatives here, and dont want them, N.Ireland can handle its own affairs thank you very much and we are proud of that. All of our parties local parties who care about local issue.

As for Maggie Thatcher [warned you once: play the ball. Next time you're banned]. She destroyed N.Ireland and showed how little the Conservative party actually know about N.Ireland and failed to grasp the true problem in the province. Instead all she was good for was getting PIRA recruits, well to her I would say smart one there, well done, that plan worked.

I would say to the conservatives stick to england and scotland, thanks but no thanks, we dont need you here in our state/country, we are happy with our crap pathetic politics, it works for us.

David Cameron needs to stick to what important it England he has a lot of work to do.

"If I was a Unionist I would vote for the DUP"

That I believe. They're just as parochial and short-sighted as the Sinners.

"we dont need you here in our state/country, we are happy with our crap pathetic politics, it works for us."

Speak for yourself.

EDIT: And by the way, the Conservatives in question are from Northern Ireland, not "coming over" from England, but don't let that stop you from indulging in a little little-Ulsterer xenophobia when the mood takes you.

Seamus
"On social issues like abortion and gay marriage, I am actual quite conservative [note the small c]. The Tories aren't. They are actual quite liberal, so I despise the Tories."

How can a socialist despise the Tories for being liberal - in this case, presumably, not right wing enough?
Makes me even more convinced that we need to be talking about politics and not orange/green issues all the time.
Maybe having a strong Conservative (and Labour) party would help that.

Because socialism is about economics, not liberalism. I personally despise liberalism. The Tories on the other hand are quite a liberal party by world standards. They are for abortion, for gay marriage etc. etc. You mention how people in the North need to stop looking at orange/green all the time but people in general need to stop being bogged down in the whole left wing, right wing thing because it just doesn't apply in the modern world. People can be against abortion and gay marriage but for helping the working class. In the same way people can be very for big business and tax cuts but for gay marriage, like the Log Cabin Republicans in America.